What do you guys think?

I was just looking over Rafael's "School of Athens" painting in 1509-1510 and thought that the guy in the foreground to the left a couple people over from Michelangelo's character looks a lot like Caravaggio's first depiction of Saint Peter in the early 1600's with the angel hovering over him while he has that sheepish expression on his face that makes him look like an idiot. Is it possible that Caravaggio might have used Rafael's piece as a schema to his own?

We know he did reference Michelangelo here. 

I certainly copied Caravaggio! 

Calling of Marc by Kenney Mencher oil on linen canvas 48x60x1.5

Calling of Marc by Kenney Mencher oil on linen canvas 48x60x1.5
Calling of Marc by Kenney Mencher oil on linen canvas 48x60x1.5 Calling of Marc by Kenney Mencher oil on linen canvas 48x60x1.5 Calling of Marc by Kenney Mencher oil on linen canvas 48x60x1.5
The stretcher bar frames are 1.5" inches thick and the canvas is gallery wrapped.


  1. Yes. I most certainly think he did because that's what the Renaissance was all about, Artist referencing other artist pieces of work, they built on top of each others work, I think there is a quote that came from the Renaissance, I think it goes something like this....we stand on the shoulder of giants looking to the future, something like that, I think it was Isaac Newton, Michelangelo was a giant in his time and Caravaggio is standing on his shoulders,Artist are always building off of the past work of other artists and always referencing them like finding little easter eggs.

    1. I agree that during the time period, artists liked to make "covers" of other artists' pieces, often riffing a couple of elements here and there, utilizing the theme and copying their organization. This is certainly displayed in Caravaggio's reference to the Sistine Chapel ceiling, and I find it so interesting that he does so again with Raphael's School of Athens. It seems like he only copies/learns from the best, because certainly Michelangelo and Raphael were giants of the Renaissance. It's no wonder Caravaggio had the inclination to copy from them.

  2. Kevin Michael SubijanoOctober 10, 2012 at 7:21 PM

    I would say yes in my opinion because just as John Hayes says above me that that's what the Renaissance was all about and not only just because of the renaissance but because i believe that different artist tend to study from other artist and with that being said, artist such as Raphael may have copied Caravaggio in the sense that Raphael may have studied that type of style of art.

  3. I would have to agree as well. They almost look like identical close up paintings with a few changes of course making it "his" painting. I also noticed that the man in the painting looks a lot like the man Michelangelo did a sculpture of, Moses, in 1513. Through the similarities I wouldn't doubt at all that Carvaggio studied both Michelangelo and Raphael paintings and make it his own.

  4. I think that he did use the piece of art as a schema, but I do not believe they are copying other artists works. While there are similarities in all paintings, each artist adds their own twist to their depiction. For example, Gislebertus, Giotto, and Michelangelo all did a piece depicting the Last Judgment. Gislebertus' serves as a schema. It is basic, uses no color, and is a sculpture from the Romanesque style. Giotto's Last Judgment uses color, is much larger, and he adds his own style to the painting. He puts part of himself into his pieces of work. For Michelangelo, he uses a different set of colors than Giotto. His painting is also quite large, an he also adds his own style to his depiction of the Last Judgment.